Selecting Crown Molding – Sizes, Profiles, Options

by Remodeling Guy on March 24, 2009


Sometimes I wish I was speaking to you in person so that you could see that I’m smiling as I write this.

I know that smiling isn’t normally associated with a blog post all about wood molding (or moulding?) sizes, placements, and shapes!

But it does happen.

crown molding

So, why am I smiling? First of all, it’s my birthday, and I refuse to frown on my birthday! Second, it’s because I laugh at myself when I recognize how my heart rate increases after looking at a few pictures of crown molding! What’s wrong with me? It must be a sickness…who get’s excited by trim?

Well, maybe you do, and maybe that’s why you’re here! And that brings up my third reason for smiling. I’m also sarcastically laughing at myself as I contemplate which small part of the world of crown moldings I ought to discuss! I think I’ll start with the most common question I hear. What size?

Pick the Right Size

Crown Molding has to be sized according the the volume of the room to work well. Too small and it will seem insignificant and look out of place, too large and it will make the room itself seem small and just be overpowering. There is a right size for every room.

Ceiling height is the first consideration. If your ceilings are at 8 feet above the floor, then you shouldn’t go with a huge molding. If your ceilings are 20′ in the air, on the other hand, then it wouldn’t do much good to put a small molding because nobody will be able to see it! At least not once they hit my age.

Here is the official 2009 RGCMSC (Remodeling Guy Crown Molding Size Chart):

crown molding size chart

Of course you know that there are no hard-and-fast rules on this! This is just a guide meant to help get you in the ballpark.

Build-Up’s or Multi-Piece Crown

If you have a large enough room, you can use more than one piece of trim to assemble a larger molding. There are endless combinations, but one of the most common is to use a piece of baseboard on the wall first, installed upside down, then put the crown on top of that, leaving the bottom few inches of the base exposed. Take a look at this picture:

a great trick for crown molding

add trim to the wall to augment crown molding

In the close-up to the right, you can see that in this case they have actually used a piece of trim both on the wall and on the ceiling before applying the crown molding.

You’ll also notice in these pictures that they’ve done a multi-part built-up crown in a room that doesn’t have exceptionally high ceilings and it looks good.

You’re free to experiment!

How To Experiment

You’re probably wondering how in the world you’re supposed to experiment with something like this! I’ll tell you. If it’s at all possible, find a local building supplier that stocks many shapes and sizes of trim. If you can find a store that is locally owned and operated you often get better service with what I’m going to suggest next.

You want them to cut you off pieces, very short, of the different profiles that you think you might like. This will allow you to hold the various parts together and even take them home and hold it up in your room to see if it seems like the right size.

This process is the best way to be certain that you’ll be happy with the result. With larger chain stores you may have a problem getting them to cut a small piece for you, but sometimes you can find a broken piece in the bottom of the bin. If all else fails, hold the various parts together right in the store to form your perfect assembly.

Keep It Simple

If all this sounds like too much, don’t worry about it! For most rooms, a standard crown molding with nothing added to it will work wonders. Ninety percent of the crown molding I’ve installed has been 5.25″ standard crown. Unless you have very high ceilings, you can’t go wrong with that size.

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So, is there a crown in your future?

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1 Betsy M March 24, 2009 at 4:54 pm

I do have some questions for you. Hope you don’t mind.:) My husband wants to do crown molding and I love the look but am unsure. We have a story and a half ranch and if we do crown molding in the LR, Kitchen and DR (all connected) should we continue this down the hallway (it is narrow) to make the house “flow” together better? Our house also has smallish, oddly shaped rooms and I am worried that this will emphasize this?
Oh, and thanks for all your ideas – we will be doing a remodel next month so I love checking out all that you post!
Betsy

2 Terry Kearns March 24, 2009 at 5:08 pm

This reminds me of a molding decision at our place. We did a new room with a very modest tray ceiling. After theyd done the sheet rock, the architect walked through and within 10 seconds he said, “needs some molding.” He whispered to the project manager while gesturing the dimensions and locations with his fingers. So in 20 seconds he’d made a decision and spec’ed it. It ended up being a single 1/2″ strip of wood with couple of curves put on the flat part of the ceiling a few inches outside the tray. It’s just perfect. How’d he do that?

As you say, keep it simple.

Terry Kearns’s last blog post..Ceiling Height – feeling the relative intimacy of different spaces

3 Michelle March 24, 2009 at 6:14 pm

I love the look of crown moulding, our living/dining is one gigantic room. I’ve toyed with getting some crown moulding, but the space is just too oddly shaped.

Oh–a little birdie told me (the Mrs. via twitter)…Happy Birthday!!

Michelle’s last blog post..On This Day In History.

4 suzanne March 24, 2009 at 6:38 pm

Happy Birthday from one March birthday person to another…mine is the 31st…..I love that ivory colored room….I could move in that room……it is so, so pretty. I have a lot of crown molding, not installed by us, and I really do love it…..the people who built this house worked for the builder, so we ended up with a lot of nice upgrades……..thanks for sharing and Happy birthday!

suzanne’s last blog post..Going on a fairy hunt…….

5 Carol March 24, 2009 at 7:35 pm

Hi Remodeling Guy!

Do you have any experience with “peel and stick” crown molding?
The only reason I ask is that I have no skills and no tools and I had thought about looking into it for my little condo. Have you seen any? I haven’t run across it yet but I’ve heard about it.

Thanks!

6 Rhoda@ Southern Hospitality March 24, 2009 at 8:05 pm

Hi, Tim, thanks for stopping by the toile post! Love, love crown molding, you can’t have too much of the stuff. Thankfully, we have quite a bit in our house already, so I’m a happy camper.

I have a question for you…I have a whirlpool tub with one of those plastic-y fronts all the way to the tile floor. Would it hurt anything for me to cover that with beadboard? I’d love to add some beadboard about the tub area & on top of that plastic front. I think that would look SO much better, but I don’t want to create a problem.

7 Cheri March 24, 2009 at 8:34 pm

HAPPY BIRTHDAY! Mine was the 21st. I think that March babies are special. LOL

No questions…just wanted to say I love reading your blog and getting ideas.

Cheri’s last blog post..Thanks Sarah!

8 Remodeling Guy March 24, 2009 at 8:35 pm

Betsy – I don’t feel that you must do crown molding in every room if you do it in one or some. What usually ends up happening is that people like it so much that they WANT to do it in every room. I don’t think the correct size molding would accentuate a somewhat cut-up floor plan, but a large molding might do that. I would stay on the smaller side if you’re concerned about that. Crown usually looks good, even in smaller settings such as hallways.

Carol – I’ve actually never heard of peel and stick crown molding. Remember that everyone who has skills started with no skills. Nobody is born with a saw in one hand and a stick of lumber in the other (though I’ve met guys that make me wonder if they were!). You can teach yourself how to do this stuff! There are so many videos online that are step-by-step tutorials… I would go for it and use real wood trim…nailed on. But if you go with the peel and stick, come back and give me the report on how it goes! Thanks!

Rhoda- So glad to hear from you! Love your blog. There isn’t any problem with the general premise of covering the front of the tub with something pretty. That can be bead board, or even tile. The main thing I would wonder is whether or not there is an access panel in the front of your tub to reach the pump. If so, you would want to make your added parts removable. Other than that, the only question is how to trim the top of your bead board…but I’ve seen your skills and I know you can handle that! If you want to send me some pictures, I’ll do a little detailed drawing for you showing you how I would do it.

Thanks to all and thanks for all the birthday wishes…It’s been a great one. How could it not be…I have a great little Crew at my house!

Tim

9 Corey March 24, 2009 at 9:03 pm

Happy Birthday!
I love BIG crown moulding!!! :)

Corey’s last blog post..I Heart Faces

10 Pat Layton March 24, 2009 at 9:23 pm

Happy Birthday My Son!! I am so blessed to have been with you the longest of anyone. I can actually HEAR you smile on your blog posts!
I love these rooms as usual, but as you know, I am a sucker for crown molding as well!!
xxxx”s
Mom

11 STACY March 24, 2009 at 9:43 pm

It’s me again! Happy Birthday!!!
You have inspired me to start some trim projects in my home, all by myself! I have already purchased the supplies to install beadboard in my kid’s bathroom. I would also like to start replacing the standard builder baseboards in my home with something taller (maybe 5″). I think I can handle those projects, but I am scared to death to try the crown moulding. Is this something a new do-it-yourselfer can really do alone? If I do decide to hire someone, what is the best way to find a good carpenter? What is a reasonable rate for installing standard crown? Thank you so much for your help!

-Stacy

12 Andrea March 24, 2009 at 10:49 pm

Tim, there is definitely crown in my future! My husband and I are re-doing small portions of our kitchen/dining room combo – a VERY small space. We currently have 48″ photo-finish paneling in the dining area that we’re changing out to white beadboard. My question for you right now, is about the moulding. Our kitchen ceiling is 8′, and the cabinets have a 1 3/4 inch moulding built into the top of them. I assume I would need any crown moulding I install around the rest of the room to be the exact same? Also, how do I go about coordinating the trim at the top of my beadboard to any crown I may install?

We appreciate you lending your expertise!

Happy birthday!

13 Rhoda@ Southern Hospitality March 25, 2009 at 10:17 am

Thank you, Tim! I’ll definitely take a pic and send it to you. I have no idea where the parts are, but you’re probably right, they have to be behind that panel, although there doesn’t seem to be a way to get it off easily right now. The tub overhangs the front panel, so I wouldn’t even have to trim out the top, just butt the beadboard under it. I’ll send you a pic soon!

14 kat March 25, 2009 at 1:05 pm

Happy Birthday, Tim. I found your blog via Nester :) and i’ve had a feed to your blog since i found you. Thank you for all that you share. I was wondering if you might happen to know the paint color that is pictured in the first photo. I doubt that you would have any way to found out (not sure if you contracted the work), but we are looking to paint our home that EXACT same color and are having difficulty finding a good light creamish/neutral. Thought i’d ask anyway :)

15 Rachel March 25, 2009 at 1:30 pm

Happy Birthday to you!

Rachel’s last blog post..My Hope

16 Kristi March 25, 2009 at 4:31 pm

Happy Birthday! Yes, there is definitely crown in my future. I decided that a re-do of my living and dining room will be just the thing to get me through the transition of seeing my child off to college in the fall. I’m sure I’ll have a ton of questions for you then.

Kristi’s last blog post..Back in Business

17 Danee March 26, 2009 at 12:09 pm

Tim, I was wondering if it is still ok to do crown in my family room if I have vaulted ceilings on 2 of my walls? Is there a trick to doing the corners when one wall is a a normal 10′ ceiling and the ones next to it are vaulted?

18 Wood Crown Molding April 8, 2009 at 11:59 am

Happy Belated Birthday!

The images above looks stunning. I have always been a fan of crown molding. I always find a excuse to use it. I think it’s because a room looks so clean and finished once the moulding is installed.

A great post and it looks like you have many followers… which is definitely not surprising, since you know what you are doing. Great job.

- Timothy

19 Milan Jara January 11, 2010 at 1:34 am

Crown Molding without a doubt changes the rooms appearance. I love your work and your blog. If you would ever need polyurethane crown molding, let me know. I got tons of it and at lowest prices.

Milan

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